Are the Starters the same??

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Postby kingbobdole on Mon May 14, 2007 12:49 am

mikeshoup wrote:The 4EAT starters *may* be different, but the 3AT and Manual starters interchange. Same number of teeth, just the autos have a reduction gear.

I know this two fold: I'm using the 3AT starter on my now manual EA81T... and my brother's car has a 3AT starter pulled from a junkyard on his 5spd D/R.

I say 4EAT may be different as I've never played with them, however, I doubt they are.

Hmmm... it must be the 4EAT then since I haven't played with any 3AT ones. All I know is that when I did my tranny swap, my old starter was a no go.... so that was a 4EAT starter + a XT-6 flywheel = no worky...

The 3AT thing wouldn't surprise me though since they are strange trannies...
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Postby mikeshoup on Mon May 14, 2007 1:05 am

So, in otherwords Connie, since Rocky is a 5spd, those EA81 starters you have *should* fit. If they're automatic, they'll look off set because of the reduction gear, but they should fit.

Unless of course Phil and I are smoking.
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Postby Walker on Mon May 14, 2007 1:37 am

kingbobdole wrote:WALKER!!
You may not have a solenoid issue. be warned. I bet you'll put the new starter in, it'll work swimmingly for a few months and then your issue will return. In my experience 90% of "solenoid problems" are the wire going from the ignition to the solenoid... you replace(or clean) that and you're set. They usually "burn" in a connector under the dash.


Thanks King..... I'll check the connectors on both ends. The single wire with the spade connector on the end? Does it terminate on the starter switch under the dash???


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Postby kingbobdole on Mon May 14, 2007 1:49 am

Walker wrote:
kingbobdole wrote:WALKER!!
You may not have a solenoid issue. be warned. I bet you'll put the new starter in, it'll work swimmingly for a few months and then your issue will return. In my experience 90% of "solenoid problems" are the wire going from the ignition to the solenoid... you replace(or clean) that and you're set. They usually "burn" in a connector under the dash.


Thanks King..... I'll check the connectors on both ends. The single wire with the spade connector on the end? Does it terminate on the starter switch under the dash???


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Yes, but there is a connector in line as well... IIRC it's white and you'll notice a slight burnt tinge to it... thats how mine was. I'd recommend running a whole new wire. Just fine the 6 or so wires that come off the ignition switch(very large gauge) then unplugging it and testing ground to the other wires, the starter is the only one working in the start(not run) position. After you find it, T it off on a new wire(like 14 gauge) and take it to the starter. shazam, done
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Postby Bucky92 on Mon May 14, 2007 5:44 am

This is even more confusing..yes it will work...no it wont..yes no yes no...I am just going to wait till I have the money to buy a new one...seems much less confusing this way
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Postby mikeshoup on Mon May 14, 2007 10:23 am

Physically comparing the two starters should tell you if it'll fit... It'd save you money that's for sure if they do...
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Postby Bucky92 on Mon May 14, 2007 6:18 pm

Tommy came home and plopped the brand new ( OK new rebuilt) starter in my lap...I guess I have to keep him since he puts up with my Subaru addiction ( He is not a car guy..he is puter guy I am car girl)...so new starter is in the car and he is running again...now he can stall all he wants ..nno problem restarting him..so in 3 days he is on his way to Carlisle Import Car Show!!
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Postby Eyeball Kid on Mon May 14, 2007 6:28 pm

Alright! Image

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Postby Huck369 on Mon May 14, 2007 10:01 pm

Thats great news Connie!!!

Take lots of pics at the show!!
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Postby Walker on Tue May 15, 2007 12:14 am

I just put a new Bosch starter in my XT6, and this came with it:

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Postby xfinrodx on Tue May 15, 2007 1:29 am

I've used both, but that's comforting to see... and a little weird IMO.
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Postby Huck369 on Tue May 15, 2007 6:06 am

Walker wrote:I just put a new Bosch starter in my XT6, and this came with it:

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Good post Walker...

I'd prefer the Gear ruduction style (Nipondenso) as they pull less current to do the same job.
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Postby Walker on Tue May 15, 2007 9:11 am

Huck369 wrote:Good post Walker...

I'd prefer the Gear reduction style (Nipondenso) as they pull less current to do the same job.


Ahhhhh.... So that's the gear reduction type. That's what I just installed....

Thanks Huck.....


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Postby austinXT6 on Tue May 15, 2007 11:50 am

YAAAAAAAAY!!!! Congrats Connie!
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