The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby kingbobdole on Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:01 pm

Update of the ages!

Firstly, Zem's GLF, since I know you all want to know. It ended up getting a 97 Impreza 2.2 awd conversion. Great swap really, ran like a Champ. Good power, probably a 15 second car and with the awd and rear 3.9 LSD, it'll go anywhere. Owner is going to ditch the hood scoop and digidash and fix up the insides. He's very happy with it, also on the USMB iirc.
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Now back to the turbo wagon of my death. I've decided it's going to be my winter car and it always makes me giggle when I drive it, but! It's a one wheel tire fire everywhere it goes. I want awd, but it's been so long since I've played here, I cannot remember what all it takes.

I got an XT-6 ft4wd sr box from Lord Frodo, but what else do I need. I know the 6 uses the ej style rear trans mount, but can I just swap the case ass and not need that? What about shift linkages and drive shaft?

Currently it is a stock pb 4wd box. Nothing fancy, and I hate the 3.7s (and think they zap the fun out of the car)
Thoughts? Help? I might try to do this Saturday if I don't need crossmembers and magic. :wink:
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby Caboobaroo on Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:50 pm

Since it's a pre '87.5, the rear transmission crossmember from an XT6 will not fit as they widened the transmission tunnel. One of the reasons why I scrapped my silver 3-door in favor for another black RX. I did find that a 3AT rear crossmember for an earlier car could be modified to work but never got around to doing so.

Now the transmission will fit in factory form, just reuse the original crossmember and mount. No need to swap the rear cases as it will entail swapping over ALL the guts from the PB transmission. Even the vacuum solenoids are the same between the PB and the FT.
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby kingbobdole on Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:30 am

Caboobaroo wrote:Since it's a pre '87.5, the rear transmission crossmember from an XT6 will not fit as they widened the transmission tunnel. One of the reasons why I scrapped my silver 3-door in favor for another black RX. I did find that a 3AT rear crossmember for an earlier car could be modified to work but never got around to doing so.

Now the transmission will fit in factory form, just reuse the original crossmember and mount. No need to swap the rear cases as it will entail swapping over ALL the guts from the PB transmission. Even the vacuum solenoids are the same between the PB and the FT.


Are you saying I'm crazy and it's a bolt in? Why is the manual Xt crossmember different then? What of the other bits?
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby Caboobaroo on Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:30 am

The 3 piece XT6 crossmember setup will only bolt into a late '87 and newer car as they had the wider transmission tunnel to accommodate the 4EAT. The front section is the same size but the rear is about 3/4" wider on either side. I'm not 100% sure if the XT6 transmission will bolt to the EA82 transmission mount.
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby kingbobdole on Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:53 am

Whelp magic happened.... Here's what I found out about putting an Xt-6 tranny into a pre87 3rd gen car. It's cake. Basically the Xt-6 tranny has the bolt holes for the gl style mounts, so I just put the gl mounts on it. Slotted the shifter bolts a bit and added the gl linkage stay and exhaust hanger. Even reused the gl starter, easy peasy. I did have to reverse the "4wd" vacuum lines, the center diff is open in "2wd" and locked in "4wd" since this is a push button car.

All and all I like it. Awd slows it down, but the 3.9 makes it fun again, but with traction. I put the xts old clutch LSD in the back of it and it's still noisy. Oh well.

I also put in a momo GC steering wheel and have been fiddling with the efi,trying to make it run a lot leaner. All I ever manage to do is piss it off. Oh well. :roll:
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby Jeffast on Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:22 pm

and then it exploded
in between failures
shawnw wrote: Jesus Christ Jeff this is why you cant have nice things

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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby grossgary on Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:55 am

Jeffast wrote:and then it exploded
boo.
let's start a poll:
boring headgasket or dramatic block hole being formed or jeff drove it?
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby subeman90 on Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:10 pm

sounds like Jeff drove it. :lol:
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby grossgary on Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:16 pm

subeman90 wrote:sounds like Jeff drove it. :lol:
that's 2 votes for Jeff driving it. ()$*)($*LOL
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby natext6 on Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:41 am

"shawnw wrote:
Jesus Christ Jeff this is why you cant have nice things"
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby Jeffast on Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:28 pm

natext6 wrote:"shawnw wrote:
Jesus Christ Jeff this is why you cant have nice things"

that was in response to me telling him that when, i launched my rally car a 7,200 rpm on asphalt it did a wicked 4 wheel burnout for about 20 ft
in between failures
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby kingbobdole on Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:46 am

Well the rest of the story... It's been cold here... Hella cold. I didn't have thermostat because it's a turbo wagon, but at 5 degrees ambient I wasn't getting heat. Called subaru but it was over a week out so I got a Carquest one. Worked great until it hit like 35 degrees and then stuck closed. Temp gauge doesn't always..... Work, digidash you know. Anyway, lateish to work, hoping it would open, didn't.

Pressure and heat blew out the heater lines, kept driving. When I got to work, checked the head temp with an infrared gauge. Was north of 300 degrees at the head... Oops. Let it sit for a while assuming it was crusher bait.

Put it back together tonight. Cut the thermostat out and left the plate. Replaced the hoses and refilled. Magically it seems okay. Now time for emissions :roll:

Also, I bought this...
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Self hate continues...

Edit: for the record I also own that h6 legacy, impreza and ... ... ... Escort in the pic too. :lol:
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby Huck369 on Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:12 am

You just bought it because it was Yellow, didn't ya :)
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby natext6 on Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:14 am

That thing looks SO cool. Love it! :mrgreen:
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Re: The GL-10 turbo build I said I'd never do

Postby crazyhorse_001 on Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:54 pm

As heard at the dragon "Alfas are really nice cars when they arent trying to set me on fire"
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